GGACP celebrates the 15th anniversary of the Pixar masterpiece “Ratatouille” (released June 29, 2007) by revisiting this 2-part interview with Oscar-winning writer-director Brad Bird and Oscar-winning composer Michael Giacchino. Also in this episode, the Brad and Michael discuss their various collaborations (“The Incredibles,” “Incredibles 2,” “Mission Impossible – Ghost Protocol”) complex action plots, “pre-loved” soundtracks, the demise of movie showplaces and the genius of John Barry and Elmer Bernstein. Also, Peter O’Toole clears his throat, Tom Cruise scales a high-rise, Burt Lancaster swims in an imaginary river and Michael Keaton pokes fun at comic book fanatics. PLUS: “The Big Sleep”! “Never Say Never Again”! The lost James L. Brooks musical! Brad co-hosts TCM’s “The Essentials”! And Michael composes a love letter to Henry Mancini, Lalo Schifrin and John Williams!

Special thanks to audio producer John Murray and Curtis Green

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