Filmmakers and film historians JOAN KRAMER and DAVID HEELEY have won five Emmys for their documentaries about Hollywood legends Fred Astaire, Humphrey Bogart, Henry Fonda, Katherine Hepburn and Jimmy Stewart, just to name just a few. To coincide with the release of their new book, “In the Company of Legends,” Joan and David joined Gilbert and Frank to talk about their adventures in writing and directing celebrity bios, their struggles to capture their famous subjects on film and the lasting friendships they forged along the way. Also, Richard Dreyfuss deconstructs “Casablanca,” Johnny Carson calls on Cary Grant, Jimmy Stewart takes advice from a Stooge and Kate Hepburn clashes with the King of Pop. PLUS: “Uncle Carl” Laemmle gambles away Universal studios! Lily Tomlin walks off “The Dick Cavett Show”! And the strange mystery of JFK and “Over the Rainbow”!

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